HI Dept. of Health admits Obama’s COLB is faked
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ADMISSIONS MADE IN EMAIL TO CONCERNED CITIZEN
by John Charlton
(Nov. 28, 2009) — The final nail has been driven into the coffin of Obama’s online COLB (Certification of Live Birth), which was released in 2008 by his campaign to bolster his claims of being born in the United States of America, and which has been used as the reason, motive, or simply the excuse by members of Congress and politicians throughout the country, to explain away doubts regarding Obama’s eligibility.
The now infamous COLB alleged that Barack Hussein Obama II was born on Aug. 4, 1961 to Barack Hussein Obama I and Stanley Ann Dunham, in Hawaii.
However, the Department of Health has never corroborated the authenticity of the document. Rather, in an email to the publisher of The Right Side of Life website, Okubo admitted that the Hawaii Department of Health had no documents on file to establish that any such COLB was issued by them in 2007, even though the online COLB bears a 2007 seal.
Todays newest revelation discounts entirely the authenticity of the information on the alleged COLB, which bears the notation “Date filed by Registrar.” It has been speculated for nearly 3 months, by concerned citizens who have examined the rules of other departments of Vital Statistics accross the country that this designation, “filed by” indicates “submitted to, but not yet accepted as verified.”
This interpretation has now received indirect confirmation from the Communications Officer of the Department of Health, Janice Okubo herself, in her email response to Mr. James H. Roberson, which was published today online at 5:58 PM Eastern Time at Free Republic. The email was originally published at the blog of Attorney Leo Donofrio, which is now defunct.
Mr. Roberson sent his email on Oct. 31, 2009:
The revealing email to and from Okubo reads as follows:
Aloha Dr. Fukino and Ms. Okubo – from sunny South Carolina and Old Dixie,
Conducting research, I have examined a significant number of Certifications of Live Births, issued by your Department, for children all born in Honolulu. The children differ, of course, by which year each child was born, and a large range in years is represented in the population of COLBs examined. All COLBs were printed using your laser printer, and thus all demonstrate the same basic layout format, and page spacings of “form-words” fields (i.e., CHILD’s NAME, DATE OF BIRTH, MOTHER’S RACE, etc. all occupy comparable locations on the page).
Aside from the different “distinguishing” information, specific to each child, that was inserted in the fields beneath the respective “form-words”, all COLBs appear identical except,
1.) Different years seemed to have a different style Border – which I assume was intended to inhibit “alterations” ( say a young teenager wants to make a computer template, and then add a couple of years – so they can buy tobacco or alcohol, etc. The young nippers are amazingly adroit with computers these days.), and
2.) On the lower left side of all COLBs, except for 1, the “form-words”: “DATE ACCEPTED BY STATE REGISTRAR” were printed. However, on 1 COLB the “form-words”: “DATE FILED BY REGISTRAR” were printed, instead.
As I’m sure you’ll agree, “Accepted” and “Filed” carry different meanings, or nuances. For example, “Accepted” indicates that all required forms/information were present (and, nothing looked out-of-order) – as specified by Standard Procedures – and thus this connotes the Certificate of Birth was issued with few reservations as to its validity. On the other hand, “Filed” leaves the hint that perhaps the information supplied may be either insufficient, or questionable as to its accuracy. In this latter case, the Certificate of Birth might carry a less than “full confidence” as to its completeness, authenticity, authoritativeness, or trustworthiness.
Likewise, “Registrar” (which could be either a “local”, or Island, Registrar) might perhaps be different from the “State Registrar” ???
I would be most appreciative if you will help me with the following Questions:
1.) Am I reading too much into the different “Words Choices” ? (I don’t want to sound sinister, or cynical.)
2.) Can you tell me under what circumstances would the above different “Words Choices” be required ?
3.) I have reviewed – without success – Hawaii’s Chapter (Title/Section ?) 11 “Rules and Procedures” looking for a definition of when the above “Words Choices” should be imprinted on COLBs. Could you please provide me with a “path” that I could follow to learn about the wording prescribed to be used on these type certificates / documents ?, and finally,
4.) Would you hazard an educated guess (just a general “ball park” figure would do) as to approximately what proportion of COLBs issued carry the “Filed” vs. “Accepted” classifications ? Less than 1%, less than 10% ? Or, do I have a “bad” population of specimens ?
If you are required to be presented with an “official” UIPA request, in order to provide the above information, then please consider this e-mail as such. Thank you in advance for any help that you can give me.
Respectfully yours,
IN RESPONSE, I RECEIVED from Ms Janice Ukubo the following email:
“Aloha Mr. Roberson,
Under the UIPA, the state is not required to answer all questions posed to it. Unfortunately, we are unable to help you at this time.
Please see attached response to your UIPA request.”
Okubo’s refusal to explain what “Filed by” means, can only be interpreted as withholding evidence that would indict the veracity of the online COLB and the credibility of their department in giving the semblance of truth to Obama’s claim to be born in Hawaii, because there is really no reason in the world to obstruct the request of a concerned citizen regarding what terms, which could be used on official Hawaii Vital Records, mean.
Okubo’s response also now makes her liable for criminal charges of conspiracy to use her office under color of the law to defraud the general public. Because in the fulfilment of her official duties she is legally obligated in State Law to explain what terms used on official documents mean, or at least to direct citizens to the published documents which explain these.
But numerous general inquiries for copies of such documents have been refused by the Deparment of Health for nearly 3 months.
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I wrote the State of Hawaii also, and got just about the same response. Although my question to them concerned the information used to generate the birth announcements in newpapers, etc., the response was almost identical to the above.
This seems now to be their standard response concerning anything regarding BOZO and a very lame attempt to, if not knowingly cover up said information, at the very least shows a total failure of this department to be able to answer the most simple questions as ordered them to do so by their own State Law!
A lie is a terrible thing to try and continue to foster, especially when it concerns something of this magnitude. Once started, which I believe Hawaii did with their initial statement of having BOZO’s birth certificate on file in accordance with State Law (which never really confirmed that he was born there, rather just a piece of paper being on file without specific reference to what information was contained on it), the lie must then be embellished upon and this only leads to further misinformation being put forth by an agency of a state government designed for no other reason than that of deception!
I would not want to be anyone in the State of Hawaii (or anywhere else for that matter) that has been party to using their official capacity to try and circumvent any investigation of BOZO when it is proven (and it WILL BE) that he is exactly what we all here believe him to be….a LIAR and a FRAUD and NOT ELIGIBLE to hold the office of President of the United States.
The wheels of justice grind slowly but, THEY DO GRIND!
TICK TOCK TICK TOCK TICK TOCK
The response published from Hawaii is standard under the privacy laws of the state. More typically, however, it is a response given to birthers.
I am not a birther. However, I called Kapiolani Hospital last July to determine the difference between Queens Hospital and Kapiolani Hospital. The woman who answered the phone asked me whether I am one of those “birther nutjobs”. I laughed and said “No”. She said, “Because we get a lot of calls from those idiots about the president.”
I said, “I am interested in the hospital where the President was born, but right now I was led to believe that Queens Hospital is just another name for Kapioliani Hospital.”
She said, “No, they are two separate hospitals.”
The people in Hawaii are very aware of the birther controversy, even the information clerks.
Well KCB,
so you didn’t get an answer other than the fact that there are two hospitals. You arrived at the conclusion that information clerks are well aware of the controversy. Now it should be also obvious to you that those information clerks have been instructed not to answer relevant questions. Now why is that if there were nothing to hide. Of course the privacy laws provide a way out but the fact remains that the usurper is making sure that no relevant information is made available.
Start thinking rather than looking for justifications
Oh Kcb what is your interpretation of
My impression is that they find birthers contemptible. The woman I spoke to gave me the impression that she was sick of receiving calls about the issue. She didn’t give me the impression that anyone had pressured her to respond one way or the other.
Kbc,
You are not very smart ain’t you now, on top of that you sidestep the question. So what gave you the impression that they are not instructed. Of course I wouldn’t be happy having to lie 10 times a day because the bosses ordered me so.
Get to the point rather than escaping the issue.
i SAY BOYCOTT HAWAII and all IT’S PRODUCTS;;; let em know why….the MAINLAND is NOT BUYING THEIR DECEIT…. I FOR ONE AVOID””DOLE”’ or made in HAWAII…..BUT I AM SURE tourism is their HOTTEST commodity.. SOOO DO NOT GO/ besides if your looking for ‘ THAT BIRTH PLACE” you are on the wrong CONTINENT
The point is that the people in Hawaii are proud that the president was born there and they resent suggestions to the contrary.
Besides, it isn’t possible to call a random bureaucrat in ANY PLACE ON THE PLANET and get the same lie every time. SOMEONE is going to pipe up and say what you want them to say, David. The woman I spoke to was exasperated by the volume of calls and clearly relieved that I wasn’t pumping her about Obama’s birth place. I didn’t prod her into making disparaging comments about the birthers. She did that on her own.
Kcb,
you are proofing my point about without even realizing it, no you ain’t very smart and on top of that the embodiment of naivety. I suggest you return to politijab where you can enjoy the company of your fellow zebra loving boneheads.
Peggy,
Again, lying is an abnormal act. In this case it would require too many people to line up and confirm the same lie. Think about it. It would require complicity by EVERY judge in America (considering the outcome of the cases) and the vast majority of the lawyers (since very few of them are willing to prosecute these cases). It would require the buy in of every Congressman and Senator, including Joe Wilson, John McCain and Eric Cantor, and every governor in America. None of these people have bought in to Donofrio’s or Taitz’ theories.
That’s not to say these people have a moral sanction against lying. They don’t. But how can ALL of these people collude to tell the same lie?
And, Peggy, the woman I talked to was a hospital clerk. Not a part of Okubo’s office, not a part of the Hawaiian govt. I called her at random. If I call again someone else will answer the phone. president Obama can’t make up his mind about closing Guantanomo. How could he maintain a cover up of such titanic proportions?
THERE’S NOTHIN TO COVER.. THE DOG DOO IS THERE . my o my will wonders never cease….a pending c o l b… a blotted out statement on the bottom that voids the document. a sister that gives two hospital names/// a grandmother who witnessed his birth…..a forged selective servive card.. a faked barry soetoro with LAW EXAM… an african race father on a c o l b….. A NUMBERING ON A C O L B… from the twins THAT DOESN’T match the BARRY’S… no school chumps recognize bo in college… AND THEN there’s those 39 social security numbers….. and where page 11 of the divorce decreed……hey don’t forget the 2 times SWEARING IN.. AND ahhh yes…… THAT BLACKBERRY…..WANT MORE…. reply with your proof///oh yes forgot his girl friends… the islander and the new yorker who said they had foreign roots in common.. want more..? there’s more
Let me chime in here for just a minute on this.
I’m sure these folks are to the point they are gettin just a little bit gun shy every time the phone rings. Maybe they should open their minds and take off their blinders. If what has been stated here is true and they are indeed getting that many request for information, why is it that they are now taking the defensive position and almost accusing the caller of “being one of them birther nutjobs”. If the evidence is there to prove the ‘nutjobs’ indeed wrong, what is the difficulty in producing it.
Now, before you go off on “Hawaiian Law prevents….” with your answer, please consider this.
As I said, I wrote the Hawaiian DoH and got just about the same verbatim response that this email posted here received. My question was in regards any male child born on the island of Oahu in 1961. In my request, I clearly stated that since this information was freely given to and published by the newspapers on the island, it could hardly be considered “confidential” in nature and since these folks ARE the Department of Health and are responsible for the maintaining of ALL records of births on the island, they should surely have said information available.
As to the “Hawaiian Law states….” crap……THIS is what said law DOES INDEED state……….
If an agency has the available information, it should be shared with the public on request!
Now, tell me please that it has now become a fact that the Hawaiian Department of Health no longer keeps or maintains birth records!
In short, the Hawaiian DoH representatives are LYING through their teeth.
It’s plain and simple and cannot be denied by anyone with any intelligence whatsoever.
JMHO, of course…………
You may accuse Hawaiian officials of lying. But you are caught in a Catch-22 situation, because then you would have to prove to the Hawaiian government that the people they support are lying. Essentially, you have two layers of city hall to counter. And even the first layer has so far proved impenetrable.
For starters, Obama’s COLB is NOT the only one that says “date filed” rather than “date accepted.” here (originally courtesy of “Ron Polarik”) is another. It is (if you look carefully at the bleed through of the date stamp from the other side) also from 2007, as is Obama’s.
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/file0015-cropped.jpg
Second, the US State Department regulations regarding Proof of Citizenship at Birth is explicit that the document be “filed” (rather than “accepted”) within one year of the birth. So Obama’s COLB meets the requirement.
The answer from Hawaii does not show that the COLB was faked. It simply says that the law of Hawaii says that the department does not have to explain everything.
IF the question had been “did you send a Certification to Obama in 2007?” and the answer had been either “no” or “there is no record that we did,” then you could infer that the COLB was forged. But this answer says that the DOH does not have to answer a complicated question.
Maybe it does have to give the explanation asked for. Maybe not. But the answer certainly does not say that the COLB was forged. In fact, the officials at the DOH in Hawaii have repeatedly said that the facts on the COLB accurately reflect the facts in the file, and that this means that Obama was born in Hawaii. (http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/11/obama_hawaaianborn_citizen_for.html)
smrstrauss:
While the information on Obama’s COLB may accurately reflect what is “on file”, that in no way means that the information on file is “accurate” to begin with. As it has been repeatedly stated before, anyone could send information to the DOH about a home birth in Hawaii. However, that does not mean that the information is true and that Hawaii has verified that information as being legitimate. It only means that they received it from someone and “filed” it, no more, no less.
Further, Obama claims to have been born in one of two hospitals in Hawaii depending upon which day of the week it is. There is no verification of that from any known source. Had it been true, Obama would have been more than receptive to having that information made public and he’d have had a “long-form birth certificate” with that information on it. He’d want the actual hospital of his birth to release that information.
The bottom line is, all he has to hang his hat on is the phony COLB information that someone (likely granny) gave to the Hawaii DOH when mama had him in Kenya so they could claim he was an American citizen.
The point that you keep missing over and over is…no matter where Obama was born, he is not qualified to be POTUS. His father was a British subject and Obama was at minimum a dual-citizen at birth even if he was born in the Lincoln Bedroom at the White House in Washington, DC. A Constitutional “natural born citizen” can not hold dual-citizenship at birth. Both parents must be US citizens to qualify.
You want to harp about the COLB but you avoid the fact that it really doesn’t matter. We discuss the COLB because it is just one more piece of the puzzle but it is in no way the definitive answer. The definitive answer is the question of “dual-citizenship”. The COLB is just icing on the Obama fraud cake along with his other hidden documents.
If you can provide one reasonable explanation as to why Obama would hide all of his records, it might be worthy of discussion but you can not, nor can anyone else. If it looks and walks like a duck….damn…it’s a duck !! This aint rocket science and you people who voted for this fraud are sure as hell not rocket scientists. You were clueless and still are. You are in denial. Wake up!!!!