Will Pentagon purge Oath Keepers?
I, [name], do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.
Now the Pentagon is targeting those who keep their Oath rather than betraying it like the Joint Chiefs of staff are doing each time they accept an order from the usurper. Keeping the Oath now is declared extreme, how sick can it become.
Notice how the conspirators of tyranny and usurpation are making use of the Fort Hood Muslim terrorist attack in order to justify their gun control program. Now wonder that guys like this here David Crockett start suspecting foul play.
- David Crockett
November 23, 10:20 AM Gun Rights Examiner David Codrea
St. Louis Gun Rights Examiner Kurt Hofmann speculates on potential consequences for a group of current and retired military and law enforcement personnel who believe their oath to the Constitution should have bearing on their professional conduct. In today’s column, he asks “Will Pentagon try to crush Oath Keepers?”
The immediate basis for Hofmann’s concern is a report following up on the Fort Hood shootings:
The Pentagon may reconsider rules governing participation in extremist organizations that some lawmakers say appear outdated and too narrow in light of the shooting rampage at the Army base in Texas.
Some have been following attempts to tar Constitutionalists as extremists for years. And some of us have repeated the warnings when we saw renewed smears. We raised concerns when we saw the infamous Department of Homeland Security report single out not just Constitutionalists for special scrutiny, but saw our government issue strident warnings such as:
The possible passage of new restrictions on firearms and the return of military veterans facing significant challenges reintegrating into their communities could lead to the potential emergence of terrorist groups or lone wolf extremists capable of carrying out violent attacks.
And we have not stood by silently when we saw some try to publicly affiliate Oath Keepers with “white supremacists, anti-Semites, nativists…and a range of other activists of the radical right [that] are cross-pollinating and may even be coalescing.”
The Pentagon is reconsidering affiliation restrictions: Current “rules prohibit membership or participation in ‘organizations that espouse supremacist causes,’ seek to discriminate based on race, religion or other factors or advocate force or violence. Commanders can investigate and can discipline or fire people who ‘actively participate in such groups.’”
Here’s what we must hammer home while the politically-minded brass are considering expanding disqualifiers–what Oath Keepers are not:
We are Not advocating or promoting violence towards any organization, group or person [and] We are Not advocating or promoting any act or acts of aggression against any organization or person for any reason including, but not limited to; race, religion, national origin, political affiliation, gender or sexual orientation.
And here’s one other thing to keep in mind: What do you call a person who has been dishonorably discharged?
That’s right, a “prohibited person.” Subject to having their firearms confiscated.
Policy makers currently trying to connect dots had better think this one through very carefully.
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LEAA warns Gun Talk listeners about Holder
On Saturday, we talked about Attorney General Eric Holder’s plans for more “gun control”. Yesterday, Ted Deeds from Law Enforcement Alliance of America appeared on Tom Gresham’s “Gun Talk Radio Show” to talk about it.
If you missed it, you can listen to the segment by clicking here, then click on “Listen” and click down through “Archived Shows” to “Sun, 22 November 2009 Guntalk, Part C., Hour Three - Guest Ted Deeds L.E.A.A.”
A handful of us are doing what we can to get this story heard, and trying to generate wider awareness and interest. So far, and predictably, the mainstream “Authorized Journalists” have ignored the attorney general of the United States telling the Senate Judiciary Committee that people on a government suspicion list should not be allowed to “possess” guns. Meaning citizens on such a list, who have been convicted of no crime, would be subject to having their arms confiscated…
If that concerns you, please help us spread the word, by sharing the link to “Gun Talk Radio” and to these articles:
Attorney General Holder Reveals Aggressive Gun Control In Response to Ft. Hood Terror Attack
Holder tells Senate committee Justice Department supports more ‘gun control’
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Greetings:
The Pentagon is NOT targeting those that have taken the Oath you post…they are targeting those that have taken the “Oath Keepers” Oath which is in conflict with the REAL Oath. Within Oath Keepers there are Anti-Semites-9/11 Truthers-Pedifiles-Felons-and some of lesser character who do not belong in a civil society. Anti-Semetic language was and is posted on their websites by current members along with accusations that the Government was behind 9/11…(have the proof and the names of the offenders. They have been turned over to the proper authorities and the result is exactly what the Pentagon and other agencies are doing. Oath Keepers is NOT the Organizations they pretend to be. This is fact and documented, no rumor or guessing.
Defend the Organization all you want…it is your ignorance that allows this Organization to exist and have its members lauded for their patriotism. Yes many are honest but they allow the garbage in and are not screened to weed out the trash. Their Oath alone is in conflict with the true Oath taken by Leo’s and Military personnel, both active and retired..
I have responded to this post and will not respond any further, nor defend my actions. The names of the offenders have been made available to those that keep an eye on Organizations such as Oath Keepers and many other “Patriot” Organizations that are no where near being Patriotic or honest. They take your money and care little who joins and pays.
Eric Holder cannot institute increased gun control. Only Congress can do that and there is not a bill in Congress that has any chance of being passed.
Here is another excellent article written by Mr. John Charlton:
Obama is negotiating surrender in Afghanistan
November 23, 2009 by John Charlton
COINCIDENTS OF REPORTS ARGUE THAT THIS IS FACT, NOT FICTION
by John Charlton
(Nov. 23, 2009) — Obama is about to sell out — for political expediency — the brave troops of the American and Nato forces which have been fighting a bitter war in the mountains of Afghanistan for nearly 8 years.
The report comes from an Arabic News Agency, Al-Watan, in Saudia Arabia. Chaptomatic’s translation of the report reads as follows:
Kabul, Islamabad: (agency name)
A well-informed Afghani source confirmed details of secret discussions happening between (name?) of the Taliban movement, among them the designated minister of war, and the American ambassador to Afghanistan Karl Eikenberry. (and there was agreement). The same source [said there was] complete agreement before the American ambassador party request and it resulted in US conditions for proceeding.
Ambassador Eikenberry proposed that the movement be granted sovereign power / authority in Kandahar state and Helmand and Orzkan and Kanr and Nuristan, in exchange for the ending of attacks on American bases in Afghanistan.
The Islamic Media blog, Membri Blog identifies the minister of war as Ahmad Mutawakil, the Taliban foreign minister — evidently they are the same position.
This report is unconfirmed by direct sources, but a report by the Christian Science Monitor yesterday indicates that the Pakistani government was asked by the Obama regime to sound out in support of Obama’s planned betrayal of the American and Afghan people.
Najmuddin Shaikh, formerly the top bureaucrat in the Pakistani Foreign Ministry, said the Taliban could be brought to the negotiating table if they saw a greater American military commitment and more investments in the Afghan countryside.
“It’s a little premature for talks [with the Taliban],” Shaikh said. “There has to be a change in the ground situation, things happening in the next six to eight months that shows the ‘ink spots’ strategy – [McChrystal’s idea of protecting Afghan population centers] – is taking hold, that some foot soldiers are being weaned away, then talks become possible.”
Nevertheless, behind the scenes talks with mid-level Taliban officials already have begun, and Pakistani officials think they could rapidly accelerate now that Karzai has begun his second term.
“We’ve already been talking to them [the Taliban],” said a senior Pakistani official in Islamabad, who couldn’t be named because of the sensitivity of the issue. “If the US helps the process, some arrangements can be worked out for political reconciliation. I’m not for a moment suggesting that it’s an easy task, but otherwise you will be fighting these people for the next hundred years.”
ThreatsWatch.org has issued its own enlightening commentary with many informative links on this possibility that Obama is negotiating surrender:
It would also fit in consistently with Ambassador Eikenberry’s leaked cables recently railing against a ’surge’ in forces in Afghanistan. He wouldn’t voice such without thinking he has his hands on something else. Could this be it? The surrender of 25% of Afghan territory in exchange for some form of ceasefire?
One would hope not. But if so, this demonstrated type of ‘effort’ in Afghanistan would prove to be the strongest indication that it may be time to advocate the full pullout of American forces from Afghanistan.
If this is true, then not one more drop of American blood for a path that resembles Pakistan’s path. You recall Pakistan’s series of surrenders touted as agreements, right?
Commentators on the net are indicating that if this news of negotiations between Eikenberry and Mutawakil is true, there will be immediate demands from the opposition parties in the United Kingdom, Canada and other Nato Allies for withdrawal, on the grounds that such a course of action is a slap in the face to America’s allies who have spent the blood of their own nationals for years, supporting the American action in Afghanistan. The doubt alone, that this is true, will greatly weaken the alliance.
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on November 24, 2009 at 4:01 PM Katie
But wait! There’s more!!
Navy SEALs Face Assault Charges for Capturing Most-Wanted Terrorist
Navy SEALs have secretly captured one of the most wanted terrorists in Iraq — the alleged mastermind of the murder and mutilation of four Blackwater USA security guards in Fallujah in 2004. And three of the SEALs who captured him are now facing criminal charges, sources told FoxNews.com.
The three, all members of the Navy’s elite commando unit, have refused non-judicial punishment — called an admiral’s mast — and have requested a trial by court-martial.
(More:)
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,576646,00.html
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on November 24, 2009 at 12:57 PM Katie
I’m just sitting at my keyboard trying to think of something to write. This story speaks for itself. And it’s another indication of where the usurper’s loyalties lie. It isn’t with the U.S.M.C.
Obama Sides with Terrorists
Bill Levinson says that the Obama Justice Department is seeking to block enforcement of judgment against Iran for murder of 241 United States Marines.
In 1983, 241 United States Marines were murdered by a suicide bombing. A Federal court ruled that Iran was complicit. The court ordered Iran to pay the families of the murdered service members $2.65 billion. The Boston Globe reports that the Obama Justice Department has, in an effort to appease Iran, intervened to quash the judgment; in other words, Barack Obama has sided openly with terrorists who murder U.S. Marines.
IsraPundit blog reported previously that the Obama State Department (Hillary Clinton) has cut off funding for Freedom House and other organizations that report on human rights violations in Iran and other countries. Now Obama and his Justice Department (Eric Holder) have made themselves, at least morally if not legally, willful accessories after the fact to terrorism against the Armed Forces of the United States.
What about rule of law, Holder? Didn’t you swear to uphold the law when you took office? That is what you tell us all the time when you say your duty requires you to prosecute CIA personnel for alleged mistreatment of terrorists — and don’t forget the Black Panthers, either. The truth, Eric Holder, is that your “duty” seems to consist of selective enforcement of laws to meet the needs of Barack Obama.
The law, as interpreted by a Federal court, says that Iran is liable for its role in the murder of 241 United States Marines. Obama and Holder wish to deny justice to the Marines’ families so they can appease the butchers of Tehran. Barack Obama has accordingly forfeited the trust and respect of the American people and the Armed Forces, noting again that his Administration has made itself at least morally an accessory after the fact to terroristic violence against the Armed Forces. We cannot possibly imagine how any United States Marine would now want to be posted to the White House, which was once a position of honor but which would now involve saluting and saying, “Sir,” to an individual who seeks to condone the murder of Marines.
http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaLatest.htm
http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2009/11/14/beirut_attack_victims_families_face_new_hurdle/
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Mr. Charlton replies: Katie, good work….you have the makings of a citizen journalist…if you want to submit article for the Post & Email, see the about page and email me…
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on November 24, 2009 at 12:06 PM b fuller
Obama is an illegal alien bent on the destruction of America. He is no different than the terrorists who come to America for the sole purpose of physical destruction of some part of our country. He and his group of thugs, radicals and anti-Americans need to be removed immediately before he succeeds in the destruction of the greatest country on the planet.
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on November 24, 2009 at 7:32 AM Marie
I wouldn’t be a bit surprised if this is true. It sounds just like him. Doing sneaky, dishonorable things under the cover of secrecy to achieve his own leftist political goals.
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“Anti-Semetic language was and is posted on their websites by current members along with accusations that the Government was behind 9/11…”
No it isn’t. Maybe you were on a “spoof” site.
How bizarre is this. Holder wants to ban guns because of what occured at Fort Hood but Fort Hood IS and army base and everyone has to have a gun.
How about the shooter being an Army psychiatrist who is deemed legally insane. I need to start a blog and call it Bizarre News. The big zero should step down. Now is not too soon.